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Microsoft against UPnP and for DPWS[edit]

Microsoft is not supporting UPnP anymore. One clear sign of this is that Vista only supports UPnP v1.0. Apparently - Microsoft wanted to pass throught their DPWS (Device profile for Web services) as UPnP v2.0. Since UPnP forum prioritised backwards-compatibility - it didnt go any further. However, Microsoft has implemented DPWS in Vista. Meaning - Microsoft will try to fight this war alone, and abandon UPnP. Can anyone tell me why!? DPWS is 'very good', but so is UPnP. It really seems to me that both do the same thing - only in a different way. One can hardly say one is better than the other.

Was this renamed OpenTalk?

No, this is now called Bonjour (trademark problems, I believe). Here's an updated link: Apple's implementation--198.3.8.1 22:01, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

What about Windows XP's 'Wireless Zero Configuration Utility' (the regular WLAN tool). Is that also Zeroconf? --Abdull 19:20, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Not sure, but I kinda doubt it. Microsoft has a competing discovery protocol - UPnP (universal plug-n-play). Apple did have a downloadable beta of zeroconf for windows, but it seems to have been removed from their site. I think they were planning on releasing it officially later in 2005.

With the name change to 'Bonjour' (stupid name for something so cool), Apple has released a 1.0 of 'Bonjour for Windows,' which can be found at their site.

Corrected link above to new version djm101

IPstack template?[edit]

Question: Why is the IPstack template (the 'Internet Protocol Suite' box) on this page? Per the fact that Zeroconf is no longer listed there (if it ever was), I personally think that it should be removed. If the community is against that, I would suggest that Zeroconf be added, but please note that there has been much discussion (read: arguing) about exactly which articles are listed. Anyone have any ideas? I'd hate to remove IPstack if someone had a good reason it should be there.

I agree the IP stack can be removed. (by the way, please don't forget to sign you comments next time!) -- Macfreek 12:07, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

I agree, since Zeroconf is not a protocol and definitely not a standard part of TCP/IP. -- HarrisX 13:43, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Suggested Merger[edit]

I vote yes. I don't know who suggested merging Multicast DNS into this article, but it's a good suggestion. There's not enough information for its own article. -- HarrisX 13:40, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Me too (I always wanted to say that, and now I can ;-) ) -- Macfreek 12:26, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

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I don't yet know the details, but I think the article for mdns should be augmented rather than merged. The name 'zeroconf' was used for an ietf working group and thus has connotations of signifying IETF standardization, but it seems that the dust hasn't settled yet on whether mdns or LLMNR is likely to be standardized. --NealMcB 16:03, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

I agree with the above and with a new contribution of mDNS packet structure, I've revived the article and moved the new contribution there. --Kvng (talk) 14:48, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

NetBIOS[edit]

Souldn't NetBIOS be mentioned under the section about Windows? While not a part of zeroconf, it does provide name resolution and some other basic elements of zeroconf-like systems.212.159.69.172 16:42, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes. NetBIOS is the multi-cast name resolution part of zero-conf. MS RFC3927 is the Address Configuration. NetBIOS has been partly replaced by uPnP, but in practice it is still a common implementation: The HP printer I am configuring today supports mDNS and NetBIOS, not uPnP.203.206.162.148 (talk) 04:44, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Proposed move to Zero configuration networking[edit]

• Since this is a description of a 'set of techniques' shouldn't the article's name be Zero configuration networking instead of Zeroconf? As the introduction notes, the article is about a set of techniques involving multiple and sometimes competing protocols and technologies. The current name, possibly originating from an IETF working group, is an abbreviation which gives the impression of being the name of a specific product or piece of technology. 72.244.201.28 (talk) 16:40, 28 May 2008 (UTC).
  • Done. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 04:43, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Wording[edit]

I disagree with the wording changes. Zeroconf is not merely Link-local address configuration. It provides standards for service discovery and DNS services in addition to choosing apropriate IP addresses. I think the previous wording of 'set of techniques' is more appropriate. Furthermore, the change to the list 'Problems Zeroconf solves' doesn't make sense. Autodiscovery of services is not a problem, it is a solution. Either the list title should be changed or the wording should revert back to the original. TMC1221 (talk) 20:27, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I agree with your assessment. I have reverted to prior language. I want to get the formal term for address configuration into the introduction because it's used in other articles, but I put it, admittedly, in the wrong place. Kbrose (talk) 21:29, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

I also changed the heading in the list (of problems), which I had overlooked, because I didn't think they were 'problems' in the first place, and the language used wasn't very professional.Thanks for watching out. Kbrose (talk) 21:39, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Nice work. TMC1221 (talk) 22:11, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

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Abbreviation[edit]

The page uses the name 'zeroconfig', every reference on this page (so far) is 'zeroconf'. Google gives these results: 266,000 for 'zeroconf' and 13,000 for 'zeroconfig'.I'm going to change the abbreviation. -- Aronzak (talk) 12:16, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

APIPA[edit]

APIPA is redirected here but not explictly explained or mentioned. Pretty important technology as most Windows boxes (i.e. the majority of the World's desktops) default to this behaviour when there are no IP addresses defined and there is no DHCP server. So either it needs it's own page or a section here. IMO, this article is not very authoritive if it doesn't bother to explain APIPA. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.40.192.51 (talk) 11:01, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

According to msdn, APIPA is a procedure and set of guidelines for performing these configuration functions, not an actual protocol. It first appeared on the Windows platform in Windows 2000. Given I'm not into the subject, if you think APIPA is worth mentioning then be bold and expand the 'Link-local IPv4 addresses' section, or edit APIPA to make it a new article. tankmiche^feedback? 13:33, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

mDNSResponder[edit]

What's Apple's mDNSResponder, and what's it doing in the Bonjour section ? --Jerome Potts (talk) 14:03, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

mDNS Packet structure contribution[edit]

I revived Multicast DNS and relocated the new contribution of mDNS packet structure there. --Kvng (talk) 14:46, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Linux[edit]

Bonjour Zero Configuration Networking

This article should mention the use and implementation of Zeroconf in Linux above all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.27.231.221 (talk) 23:33, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Wireless Zero Configuration

No, no, no! And why would anyone think it should be? Just in case this commenter was not trolling, or there are people who honestly share that opinion:

Even if the article were to be restricted to the set of protocols most commonly associated with the term zero configuration networking, those protocols were conceived of and sheparded through the RFC approval process primarily by Stuart Chesire, who along the way was hired by Apple to work on their implementation (now known as Bonjour). The Linux implementation (Avahi) came later.

And I feel compelled to point out that there are way more Macs and IOS owners using Bonjour than there are Linux owners actually using Avahi, and possibly even more Windows owners using Bonjour without even knowing it (because it's part of iTunes for that platform). In case you're wondering, I use all three.Joeldbenson (talk) 22:13, 19 April 2013 (UTC)